Legislature(2007 - 2008)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/29/2008 10:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 19 LTD. DRIVER'S LICENSES/IGNITION INTERLOCK TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 75 DRIVERS LICENSE: ALCOHOL AWARENESS/MINOR TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 373 SCHOOL BOND DEBT REIMBURSEMENT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 338 POWER PROJECT FUND/BULK FUEL LOAN FUND TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 338(FIN) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
= HB 233 UNCLAIMED PHONE/ELEC COOP DISTRIBUTIONS
Moved SCS CSHB 233(FIN) Out of Committee
SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 19(JUD)                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to ignition interlock devices; to                                                                         
     limited driver's license privileges; and to ignition                                                                       
     interlock limited driver's license privileges."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:36:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MEYER, SPONSOR,  provided an overview of                                                                   
SCS CSHB  19(JUD), which provides  for an ignition  interlock                                                                   
device for a person who has received  a DUI.  He detailed the                                                                   
penalties involved with receiving  a DUI.  He pointed out the                                                                   
potential  failings  of  a limited  driver's  license.    The                                                                   
intent of the bill is to ensure a sober driver.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Meyer  noted   that  the  Senate   Judiciary                                                                   
Committee amended  the bill to  extend the interlock  program                                                                   
through  the  probationary  period   of  the  offender.    He                                                                   
supported  the change  noting it  was a  deterrent to  repeat                                                                   
offenses.  Similar programs implemented  in other states have                                                                   
resulted  in  an  up  to  80   percent  reduction  of  repeat                                                                   
offenses.   He informed  the Committee  that in Alaska  about                                                                   
5000  DUI's  are  issued every  year,  with  one-third  being                                                                   
repeat offenders.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:41:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman expressed concern  regarding the cost of the                                                                   
interlock device  and offenders not having funds  to purchase                                                                   
the device.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Meyer acknowledged  the expense and  informed                                                                   
the Committee that  the court can waive the DUI  fine in lieu                                                                   
of purchase of the interlock device.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton questioned  Section 2,  which states  that the                                                                   
courts  can't   enforce  a  municipal  ordinance   without  a                                                                   
provision imposing  ignition interlock devices.   He wondered                                                                   
if   an   unintended   consequence    might   be   that   the                                                                   
municipalities  would  let the  Department  of Law  prosecute                                                                   
under state statutes rather than  under municipal ordinances.                                                                   
If this were to  occur there would be a fiscal  note from the                                                                   
Department of Law to reflect the cost.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:44:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MIKE PAWLOWSKI, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE  KEVIN MEYER, explained                                                                   
that though the  state had passed ignition  interlock devices                                                                   
for  high BAC  drivers,  it was  never  recommended that  the                                                                   
municipality  pass an  ordinance.   Section 2  came into  the                                                                   
bill from the  Senate Judiciary Committee in  the interest of                                                                   
consistency  in  statute  regarding  traffic  offenses.    He                                                                   
indicated  that he  would  talk with  the  Department of  Law                                                                   
regarding the issue and report back to the Committee.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:45:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson asked about  someone who  "knowingly"  loans a                                                                   
car to  someone who  is court ordered  to have the  interlock                                                                   
device.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer understood that  if a person knowingly allowed                                                                   
a person who had been convicted  of a DUI to drive their car,                                                                   
the owner of the car is at fault.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  asked if a  person convicted  of a DUI  gets a                                                                   
mark  on  their  driver's  license.     Representative  Meyer                                                                   
confirmed that they would.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Dyson  questioned   the   sections  regarding   the                                                                   
forfeiture of a vehicle.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:48:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman noted that the  bill is in its first hearing                                                                   
and  there  will  be  an  opportunity   for  members  to  get                                                                   
questions and concerns answered by the sponsor.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton asked why the bill  would only apply in certain                                                                   
communities  and opined  that  if the  issue is  a matter  of                                                                   
public   safety,  it   should  apply   to  all   communities.                                                                   
Representative  Meyer said it  would be  the intent  to apply                                                                   
the  interlock device  requirement statewide.   He  explained                                                                   
that changes were made in Senate  Judiciary making exceptions                                                                   
for those areas  that aren't required to have  insurance.  He                                                                   
added  that  vendors are  willing  and  able to  install  the                                                                   
interlock device to any car, anywhere,  throughout the state.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:49:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Pawlowski said  he would provide the list  of communities                                                                   
published by the Department under  AS 28.22.011(b) referenced                                                                   
in Section 7.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas noted the potential  loophole between what the                                                                   
court  orders   and  how  the  Division  of   Motor  Vehicles                                                                   
responds, in terms of returning  the license to the offender.                                                                   
They may  fulfill the  requirements of  the court order,  but                                                                   
then there may be a problem of getting the license back.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:51:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  listed the fiscal  notes: a zero  note from                                                                   
the Department  of Transportation  and Public Facilities,  an                                                                   
indeterminate note from the Department  of Corrections, and a                                                                   
note from DMV for $76,000 for one new position.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:53:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JULIE CLEMENTS,  DIRECTOR OF STATE LEGISLATIVE  AFFAIRS, MADD                                                                   
testified via teleconference in  support of SCS CSHB 19.  The                                                                   
goal  for  MADD   is  to  have  ignition   interlock  devices                                                                   
stipulated in law for convicted  offenders.  The organization                                                                   
would ultimately  like a  mandate for  anyone convicted  of a                                                                   
DUI  with a  .08  BAC or  higher  to be  required  to use  an                                                                   
ignition interlock  device.   She listed  studies to  back up                                                                   
MADD's view.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:57:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DALE FOX, PRESIDENT, CEO, CHARR  testified via teleconference                                                                   
in support  of SCS CSHB  19.  He  related that 65  percent of                                                                   
highway  fatalities are  committed  by those  with 1.5  blood                                                                   
alcohol and above,  and by those who have  committed multiple                                                                   
DUI's.   He suggested one small  change to the bill:  to have                                                                   
the  hardcore,  repeat  offenders  be  required  to  use  the                                                                   
ignition  interlock device.    He thought  that first  timers                                                                   
should be excluded from the provision.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:00:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
NARDA BUTLER, DOUGLAS, explained  that there is a significant                                                                   
amount of data that proves the  effectiveness of the devices.                                                                   
She purported that the bill is  not about punitive sanctions,                                                                   
but rather an issue of public  safety.  She outlined specific                                                                   
changes   and  suggested   removal  of   the  words   "during                                                                   
probation".   She questioned  if the  bill would address  the                                                                   
population of individuals most  recently convicted of driving                                                                   
with  a license  revoked or  suspended subsequent  to a  DUI.                                                                   
She  suggested  a  performance-based   exit  and  to  include                                                                   
felons.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:07:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RODNEY HEBERT,  TANANA, testified  that the bill  only covers                                                                   
misdemeanors,  not felons,  and  felt that  felons should  be                                                                   
included in the bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:13:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
WHITNEY  BREWSTER,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF  MOTOR  VEHICLES,                                                                   
stated  that  DMV  does  support the  bill.    She  addressed                                                                   
Senator Thomas's  question and said  there will be  no change                                                                   
in the  coordination between the  courts and DMV due  to this                                                                   
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:15:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins voiced  concern with Section 7.   He question                                                                   
what would happen  if an offender moved to  another community                                                                   
that was not on the list.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brewster  said  that the Department  is  in favor of  the                                                                   
application on a statewide basis.   She thought that a person                                                                   
who moved to an area where the  device was not required would                                                                   
not have to comply.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer made closing comments  saying he would provide                                                                   
answers to questions asked by the Committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton  noted  the  suggestion  to  provide  for  the                                                                   
extension  of  the use  of  an  interlock device  if  someone                                                                   
attempts to drive drunk before the end of their probation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SCS  CSHB  19 (JUD)  was  HEARD  and  HELD in  Committee  for                                                                   
further consideration.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:18:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                

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